Symptoms in Schizophrenia
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- ca. 1940s
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- United States
- ca. 1940s
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Subject: I created a music video using this footage
The Aquaerials - "Turn the Devil Down"
Subject: More info on this film
It is cited in McGoech, J. A., & Beck, L. F. (1942). A second review of 16-millimeter films in psychology and allied sciences. Psychological Bulletin, 39(1), 28-67. doi:10.1037/h0058837
Subject: Today it's Often Called "Autism"
Pharmacology beginning about 20 years later would allow about 80% of the patients you see here to be released with relatively few problems - as long as they were compliant.
Had a schizoid neighbor once whose main symptom (far as I could see) was that he'd get upset if while you were talking to him, your face was not in his direct sight (I guess he couldn't separate "the voices" from the person actually talking to him).
Nice film demonstrating some of the major symptoms of this disease, the exact cause of which is yet to discovered.
Subject: the film is 1938
SYMPTOMS IN SCHIZOPHRENIA (1938)
Page, James D.;
Psychological Cinema Register of the Pennsylvania State College
Abstract: This film describes and demonstrates four types of schizophrenia. Filmed at various New York institutions, it shows patients singly and grouped in large, outside recreational areas. Some patients are blindfolded. Symptoms shown include: social apathy, delusions, hallucinations, hebephrenic reactions, cerea flexibilitas, rigidity, motor stereotypes, posturing, and echopraxia.
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It's really a good piece. Today we try so hard to sweep this under the rug yet it still exists, in just this fashion.
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The lack of audio increases the surreal effect.
As to their living in the institution it was no doubt better than living on the street as many of the mentally ill do today.
Subject: re doctor positioning patients in 'pantomime'
Re consent. Many patients would not understand the filming, they would be too absorbed in their delusions. Some might have thought they were jesus or a king, so it is natural to want to film them. Or they may have feared someone was trying to spy on them (a commonly found delusion). But many would have felt safe in the routine of the hospital and understood it was to educate doctors and students, and could help others with the illness.
Re medications. In the 1940's there was no specific medication for schizophrenia, but sedatives, by closing down ion channels of nerve cells, could have helped to protect the person's brain cells long term from the disease process. In severe cases a great deal of brain tissue can be lost unless something can protect the brain. Despite annoying side effects modern antipsychotic medication do seem to protect nerve cells and slow down the process of the disease.
Re the doctor putting the patient in positions - it is to teach students the difference between the postures of the schizophrenic and those with other muscle problems - there is no spasticity, muscle rigidity - the person with catatonia shows 'waxy flexibility' and a person can move their limbs without sensing any spasm or rigidity of muscle. It also shows what this is - not a muscle disorder but that schizophrenia (when severe) can affect the ability to correctly perceive one's position and posture. People will even rest in a bed with their head up slightly off the pillow.
Re these people having tourettes or ocd instead of schizophrenia - no. These movements are a part of schizophrenia, my homeless (untreated) friends all do things like this. It is a very common part of schizophrenia and easy to see when the person is untreated. Additionally, home videos show these people making the same movements as children long before they were diagnosed - often then the movements will disappear, and not emerge again til the person becomes (obviously) ill. It suggests even more the neurological nature of this illness.
Re the doctor moving the patient's limbs. Incorrect again. The doctor is demonstrating 'waxy flexibility' that is a part of catatonia.
This was a very common demonstration and could be seen again and again in medical schools. It is very important because 'waxy flexibility' differentiates catatonia from other neurological disorders. 'Waxy flexibility' is seen when the person assumes a posture, but someone can move the person's arms or legs for them, and the person will assume the new posture.
The arms or legs are not rigid, spastic or contracted. There is no muscle spasm or tremor. This is important and differentiates catatonia from other problems...it also shows it is about perceiving posture, rather than an actual muscle disorder.
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Subject: Very Interesting
Schizophrenia at the time must have been the end-all diagnosis for many mentally ill patients. Watching this footage, it is clear many are suffering from OCD and/or Tourette's Syndrome, and perhaps not Schizophrenia at all.
Too bad it was not recorded with sound, I bet it would be interesting to hear what they are saying.
The fact that the catatonics move to a more normal pose in extremely slow motion is similar to what Oliver Sacks found. His patient Myron Z was also moving in slow motion "One of his patients, Myron Z, was basically frozen in odd positions for hours at a time, but Sachs would sometimes notice that Myron had changed positions during these episodes. Sachs pointed this out to Myron, who said “That’s ridiculous. I was just wiping my nose.” Sachs then filmed Myron over 2 hours and replayed the film at a faster rate of speed. Sure enough, Myron had been moving in slow motion, so slow that it was imperceptible to people with normal time perception. However, Myron didn’t realize it. Another patient, Hestor Y, was the opposite. She was living at a greatly increased speed, but also had no idea."
You have to wonder if time actually slowed down for them.
I also wonder if the doctors got the patients dressed up for the filming, it was strange to see them in dresses and suits.
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While some people have called this a freak show, just remember this was made for doctors, so yes, this does have some value. Interesting how some of the patients had crude masks, like in Zorro or some sort of misunderstood superhero.
Also worth noting is that this movie WAS made in the 1930ÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂs, so a lot about schizophrenia and psychiatry wasnÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂt really well known at the time, (and heck, Tom Cruise, even Tom CruiseÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂs Mom wasnÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂt around to diss it). I wonder how many of these symptoms could be helped by modern drugs today.
Subject: I were a PATIENT there-C.S.H. in them OLD DAYS!
Subject: Lets keep a few things in perspective here, Marysz.
This film was made as a learning tool for professionals in the field of Psychiatry. Not something to be shown at the Saturday afternoon matinee. They were masked to protect their identities. Furthermore, one man in the film (standing at a window) appeared to be having a very detailed and heated argument with someone, who simply wasn't there. If that level of bizarre behavior makes perfect sense to him, I very seriously doubt he had any qualms about being filmed. In fact, he behaved as though the camera wasn't there. And in his mind (I very much believe) it wasn't.
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I don't know. But then again, when someone is incurably insane as many (if not all) of the subjects in this film were, the questions that beg asking are: Do they feel its dehumanizing? And if so, how can we know this?
Dehumanizing? That is a pretty strong word, isn't it? And not very accurate. Moving the mans body around was done to demonstrate the symptom of his particular form of Schizophrenia. Not for the amusement of the demonstrator or the audience. I saw no humor in the demonstrators face. What I did see, however, was pity.
Could it be that the ÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂapathy and an absence of social contactÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂ that this film defines as mental illness could have been brought on by the conditions of their institutionalization?
Brought on? No. Made worse? Sure. We didn't have the variety of psychoactive drugs we do now. So it stands to reason to say that: What doesn't get treated, or is treated incorrectly, only gets worse.
This is not to minimize the reality of psychotic symptoms or the helplessness that psychiatrists at the time felt when they didnÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂt respond to treatment. This film was made in the era when Freudian psychoanalysis ruled; now we know that these symptoms can be controlled with medication.
Of course Freudian psychoanalysis ruled. The reason it did is because we hadn't discovered the "Chemical Cure". Freudian psychoanalysis was (for all intents and purposes) the only weapon we had to combat the problem. There was, of course, Insulin shock, electro-shock therapy and the frontal lobotomy. But those were spotty at best.
At least the mental hospital where this film was made looks home-like and the patients appear to be well-fed and cared for, which could be the best that could be done for them.
That is about all we could do back then. We were no closer to understanding the nature of Schizophrenia in the 1940's than we were in the 1840's.
But watching this film brings to mind the fact that about the same time this film was made, Joseph Mengele was carrying out his gruesome experiments in Nazi Germany.
I'm trying to draw a line between the legitimate study of the symptoms of different forms of Schizophrenia and Joseph Mengele. Help me understand the correlation between an educational film made for the benefit of the mental health community and a Nazi Doctor - the "Angel of Death" of Auschwitz.
I gave it four out of five because there wasn't any sound. :)
If you are interested in seeing a fabulous movie about a schizophrenic (WHICH IS AN ACCURATE PORTRAYAL!--unlike many today) see:
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